First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. The case was eventually abandoned. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? (A good point. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? She took out the woman who replaced her. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. The only record of a call from Patricia to the Katrinak household was on 12/7/94. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. Amina two bullets in the heart.". And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Lawrence Slaughter is currently serving a life sentence in Calipatria State Prison for the murder of Jerome Scott as well. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. Thats my life.. Its totally irrelevant. Liesbeth Powers/The Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. One of them from his ex-wife, Patricia Owens. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. She said that she has no idea why her ex-husband killed her daughters. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. Through that testing, the elderly patient was confirmed to be the same woman locally known in Pittsburgh as a street preacher called The Sparrow who vanished and left her family flummoxed. SHAME ON THEM. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. DNA also doesnt lie. Cop defends accused. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. She believed she was chosen as one of Gods 144,000 bond servants on earth, and gave up all her other hobbies, such as dancing, to devote her life to spreading the word of God. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. I happen to be one of those deluded people youre so freely attempting to insult. Whats worse is that shes innocent. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. The men harbored Yaser Said inside an apartment in Bedford, according to court documents, and he was nearly captured after a maintenance worker spotted him in August 2017. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. "It's been a long time coming for the family and the community," Warren said. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. She also will never get to see them get married. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. I hope she rots in hell. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. 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Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. Hair we go. Patty is my cousin. Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. The trial was taking so much of my time. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. in emerging media and communication from the University of Texas at Dallas and an M.S. "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. 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I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Stop it.. That woman has no soul. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. Very similar. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. Puny policy. She had had numerous run-ins with the police and, each time, would tell them to be ready because the end of the world was coming. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! She has always denied this allegation and says that both she and Lawrence Slaughter are innocent. I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Warren, who was tearful at the end of the hearing, said she is pleased with the outcome of the case, and that her office was only waiting on the outcome of Allen Prue's appeal. . A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Nobody said bodies were intact. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. "I suggest that it stands for a moment in time where people actually take a moment to take a serious look at how we allocate our resources to social services. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. He tried to claim someone else murdered them and that the night his daughters were killed someone was following them. "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". Jerry Browns office, because of Wrights Three Strikes sentence of life without possibility of parole (LWOP), she does not qualify for medical parole. Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. Im dying. ST. JOHNSBURY A three-year nightmare for the loved ones of Melissa Jenkins is one step closer to ending. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm Prosecutors did not seek the death penalty, so Said was automatically sentenced to life in prison with no parole. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. In 2016, Oklahoma police arrested the mother, Patricia Spann, now 44, and her 26-year-old daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann, charging both of them with incest. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. DALLAS, Texas - A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Judge Chika Anyiam sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. I wanted to get out of there.. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. She was wrongfully convicted.. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. The prosecution alleged that Patricia called the Katrinaks house from a pay phone in Pennsylvania. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Meticulous primping. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Have you read the book? Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree This article is little more than fiction. It was Patricias hair no question. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Jenkins at one time had hired Allen Prue to plow her driveway. "There is nothing I or anyone can say to make what you've been put through any easier," Patricia Prue said. Yassein and Islam Said later helped hide Yaser Said in a home in Justin. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. I dont even know its Christmas.. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? An infant was lying face down on her stomach. The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. We didnt expect it. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. The trial was taking so much of my time. Patricia Prue also expressed remorse for her husband's actions. Throughout the process, she heard many community members waiting for the proceedings to be over. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or emurray@freepressmedia.com. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. The real killer is Rorrer! So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Keep up your delusions. Patricia Kopta, Pittsburgh street preacher missing since 1992, found alive in Puerto Rico A woman who was missing for more than 30 years has been found alive and at Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Stable situation. Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. What evidence is there she actually left the state? Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? Police slowly built a case against Patricia. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. Presumably if they thought the evidence was against the states case, thats how theyd present as theres no obvious reason for them to be biased one way or the other. All that remains is the conclusion of an appeal that Prue's husband Allen Prue has made to the Vermont Supreme Court following his October conviction in Jenkins' murder. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. I really never thought of it again.. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. "You knew how the That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. And your appraisal of McIntyre is 100% spot on. The Riverside County public defender stated that the court may reduce her first two offences to misdemeanors because they are classified as wobblers. Wobbler refers to a criminal offense that can be classified as either a misdemeanor or a felony. Whatever the truth is. But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. Its barely visible in the picture. He jumped at the opportunity with the understanding that the emphasis would be on Lawrence Slaughter and not his sister. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. He was sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. She led a normal life, with a job as an elevator operator at the Art Institute of Pittsburgh, until 1984, when her religious vision occurred. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial issues and that Jerome was dying of liver cancer and only had 60 days to live. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? Special prosecutor Patricia Brown Holmes said, even though her side didn't win any convictions, the case still helped make police more accountable. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. This woman killed and is where she belongs! For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. Justice is about uncovering the truth. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder.
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